Ministry

Imagine this scenario. You’ve been transported back to the late 1800’s. You’re dressed in modern day attire, armed with only a giant boom box, a load of batteries and a couple of CD’s. What band or album would you play that would send the good folk running for hills, thinking you might be the Antichrist?

ministry – Filth Pig – not their greatest piece of work by any stretch but it had virtually the same effect in 1996.

Skinny Puppy – VIVIsectVI
mustang_girlie – Great call. You bust out the Too Fast For Love album, I can guarantee that would work with the song Piece of Your Action blasting.
Us as One – Slayer, yes!
Tesla Girl – I said scare the good folk, not drive them to contemplate ending the human race in order to prevent future generations from suffering the scourge of emo.
the buffster – Good point, a giant loud boom box in and of itself would be damn intimidating. The music could well just be icing on the cake. And we already know everyone in R&P loves cake.
The Trooper – Glad you mentioned NIN. I wanted to, but it’s becoming very predictable on my part.
Steve B – That’s true, they were quite the jittery bunch to begin with.
BikiniQueen – I really dig Within Temptation, nice!
Jake Rulez d00d™ – Thanks, Jake!
guardgirl94 – Some of those bands might have me running for the hills and where I live things are flat. Guess I’ll have a long jog.
Yertle the Turtle. – Of course, we could send along Britney in the time machine and that would work too. Crazy people are very scary.
Prof – Hey, buddy! Glad you realized you’ll always be the Prof. Yes, the Broken EP is perfect. I’m actually in the mood to hear it right now, even without the pitchfork.
GK Dub – They might end up liking The Beatles. Manson would more than do the trick.
mrbernstein – LOL, now I’m terrified, HELP!!!!
jennifer a – I forgot there was once a time you could understand what Ozzy was saying. Sharon and their ugly kids could also shock them.
MachPen*´`*•.¸¸ – ROFL!! Now that’s a concert event I’d like to attend. And you know the beard is way hot.
hedZy – Thanks, hedZy. Looks like our CD collection will be well stocked, let’s hope we don’t run out of batteries anytime soon.

rckets, I think that just having a boom box would do it! But instead of thinking along today’s terms of what would be shocking, I think that I’d stay with the "futuristic" theme of the boom box and play "Autobahn" by Kraftwerk. It’s musical enough to have the 1800’s folk relate that it IS music, but electronic so that the sounds heard would be thought of as other-worldly. I’d be afraid that with no context to some of the harder sounds, they might think that other offerings would just be babbling prattle and not have the desired effect.

Its not but some think it is, just to say the have a job in the building.
Its not the same as saving someone.
Just thank you for clean restrooms. You probley never hear that, do you?

If I clean the restrooms in a hospital does that make me a doctor? I don’t get it. It’s just cleaning. Who cares what kind of building it is?

The Bible states that illnesses are caused by demonic possession. Jesus spent much of his ministry healing the sick by driving demons out of them. He accomplished this either by laying his hands upon the sick person, or rubbing his spit on them.

Would you feel comfortable being treated by a doctor who believes in this kind of stuff?
Jennifer, I will accept your apology after you read the following:
Matthew – 9:32-33, 10:1, 12:22, 17:15,
Mark – 5:34, 9:17, 9:25-26
Luke – 9:39, 11:14, 13:11-16
John – 5:4, 5:14

Jesus cures blindness with his spit: Mark 8:22-25, John 9:1-6
Jennifer – you claim that my statement that "killing nonbelievers is a major part of the dogma of most religions" is crazy???? Do you seriously expect any of us to believe that you have never heard of the concept of Heaven & Hell????? Hell – the place where non-believers suffer spiritual death. Heaven – the place where believers live for eternity.
Jennifer- you are either pretending to be ignorant of these concepts, or you are a troll trying to discredit honest religious people. Please do a little homework next time.
BTW – rubbing your spit in someone’s eye can probably spread germs

Most christians have never read the bible, it doesnt make me particularly uncomfortable.

Please also tell me in what way it will be useful.

Well, it’d certainly take some of the starch out of the "water into wine" miracle crowd…

I’m in Michigan and placed my first order but someone said the food is awful so now I’m scared I wasted my money.

Elderly lady at my church gets the meals. She is not wild about the Meat, but said they are OK. I would like it should be something like Frozen TV Dinners, etc.

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Cece singing in Florida. She is sickly annointed and I love when she sings this song.

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interesting q about logos. got me thinking of all those ace black metal unreadable band names…

http://zine.disobedience.be/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/mayhem_logo.jpg -mayhem

http://scareyshop.com/catalog/images/Darkthrone.jpg

my faves are these 3 amongst others…

http://www.metalicos.com/Paginas/Noticias/MotleyCrue_Logo.JPG – this particular crue one…

http://www.metalunderground.com/images/bandlogos/ministry_logo.gif – ministry

and loads of others. what are yours? you don’t have to post the name of the font, just the band and a pic if possible…
oops, here’s the third… http://www.cosmic1.demon.co.uk/bands/whrts.gif
wow, that wolves in the throne room’s about unreadable as it gets!

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PF/PF_1106496_999~Guns-N-Roses-Posters.jpg

Guns N’Roses.

Depends…will your ministry be any different than someone elses? If the answer is no – then join their ministry and preach for it.

Jesus wasn’t paid for teaching. Joseph had trained him as a carpenter. It is by his carpentry and other labor he earned what was necessary for his needs, travel and preaching. He never charged anyone for healing or teaching. By his example, I believe clergy should seek necessary income from secular sources. Preaching was never intended to make ministers wealthy by what God intended to be free to everyone.
I once attended a Baptist (American Convention)) Church in 1963. The Pastor was furnished vehicles, a house on 15 acres with horses, pool. House was 14 bedrooms. Real nice place. And his income at the time was $160,000 a year and 3 children all had fully paid scholarships. The Pastor moved on to better positions as President of the American Baptist Convention, then Head of the World Council of Churches.
I led people in with my question. Not that I am personally against clergy being paid. I am against them getting wealthy at it. By belief is that they be paid and maintain a lifestyle commesurate with the average of their congregation. Beyond that I think they project a very poor image to their congregation, denomination and Religion. And too lavish a lifestyle they make it well known their god is Money.

I think you’ve stated two different issues. Should a minister be paid and should a minister become wealthy. I feel ministers should be compensated for their work, but not to the degree of becoming one of the rich and famous.